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                          FREEDOM OF INFORMATION 
                          ADVISORY COUNCILCOMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA
 |  August 23, 2006, Richmond
 The 
                    Electronic Meetings Subcommittee conducted its second meeting 
                    on August 23, 2006.1 Chairman Edwards began the meeting by 
                    identifying the issues on which there was consensus among 
                    the subcommittee. Namely, preservation of the requirement 
                    that a quorum of a public body using electronic meetings be 
                    physically present at one location, reducing the public notice 
                    from seven to three working days, authorizing local regional 
                    public bodies to conduct electronic meetings, and providing 
                    for participation by telephone by a member of a public body 
                    in the event of an emergency. The Chairman noted that the 
                    legislative draft prepared by staff reflected the above described 
                    consensus. He added that the issue raised by the State Independent 
                    Living Council (SILC) concerning relaxation of the electronic 
                    meeting rules for members of a public body with a physical 
                    disability was still on the table to be discussed by the subcommittee.  Staff 
                    advised the subcommittee that the legislative draft reflected 
                    not only the areas of consensus, but also included suggestions 
                    of the Virginia Press Association (VPA) and was marked as 
                    such in order for the subcommittee to have a basis for comparison 
                    and to facilitate consideration of the issues together. The 
                    subcommittee reviewed the draft and discussed each issue raised 
                    by the draft. The subcommittee invited public comment on each 
                    issue. The first issue concerned the definition of a regional 
                    public body. A representative of VPA told the subcommittee 
                    that VPA members were asked to identify the regional public 
                    bodies in their service areas and report how many localities 
                    typically comprised a regional public body. The poll revealed 
                    that typically regional bodies involved the participation 
                    of four or more localities. It was VPA's suggestion that the 
                    definition of regional public body in the draft be changed 
                    from three to four. VPA's suggested language also included 
                    a reference to the distance of 100 miles as another defining 
                    component of a regional public body. Public comment received 
                    on the issue of setting a distance requirement tended to indicate 
                    that perhaps distance was not the best measure. For example, 
                    in Northern Virginia, the issue is a travel issue, while in 
                    rural parts of Virginia it is a weather issue. Additionally, 
                    it was noted by Council member Wiley that 100 miles is too 
                    long a distance when one considers that Interstate 95 in Virginia 
                    is less than 200 miles long, although it can take a person 
                    all day to travel it. He opined that adding a distance requirement 
                    was artificial and served only to make electronic meetings 
                    for regional public bodies unusable. In response, it was suggested 
                    that the distance requirement be expressed in the alternative 
                    in the draft. Specifically, the definition of a regional public 
                    body would require either four or more counties and cities 
                    or be separated by a distance of 100 or more miles. There 
                    some discussion that in order for this definition to be meaningful, 
                    the number of regional public bodies in Virginia should identified 
                    and whether these entities in fact span 100 miles or more. 
                    In response, staff advised that there are literally hundreds 
                    of regional bodies as evidenced in a spread sheet provided 
                    by the Commission on Local Government. Mr. Wiley noted that 
                    regional jail authorities were required to have three jurisdictions, 
                    while some water and sewer authorities had less than three 
                    jurisdictions. The Chairman suggested that the definition 
                    of regional public body should not include towns within a 
                    county; but instead be limited to counties and cities. The 
                    subcommittee voted unanimously to adopt as part of the definition 
                    of a regional public body the requirement for four or more 
                    counties or cities, or alternatively participating localities 
                    must cover a distance of 100 miles or more. Specifically, 
                    "regional public body" means a unit of government 
                    organized as provided by law within defined boundaries, as 
                    determined by the General Assembly, whose members are appointed 
                    by the participating local governing bodies and (i) such unit 
                    includes four or more counties or cities or (ii) where the 
                    geographical territory within the jurisdiction of the regional 
                    public body is sufficient in size to include a straight line 
                    drawn between two points that is 100 miles or more in length.  The 
                    next issue presented in the draft concerned when notice must 
                    be given for electronic meetings. The subcommittee unanimously 
                    adopted reducing the notice requirement for electronic meetings 
                    from seven to three working days.  The 
                    subcommittee next discussed establishing a central call-in 
                    line by which the public could hear an electronic meeting. 
                    Council member Fifer noted that there was no prohibition in 
                    the law which would prevent the use of a central call-in line 
                    for public access. To change that to require such public accommodation 
                    would be a heavy burden on government. Mr. Wurtzel noted that 
                    there are three conference call services that arrange conference 
                    calls and that each participant pays for his access. The subcommittee 
                    felt that if a call-in line were provided, it should be at 
                    the government's expense and not that of the individual citizen.  The 
                    next issue considered by the subcommittee was language suggested 
                    by the VPA concerning the relaxation of the electronic meeting 
                    rules for members of a public body with a physical disability. 
                    It was noted that SILC had originally raised the issue with 
                    the FOIA Council by letter but had not provided any further 
                    guidance or suggestions to the subcommittee. The subcommittee 
                    agreed to the language offered by the VPA to address the issue, 
                    but conditioned its approval on hearing from SILC specifically 
                    and the approval by the Virginia Board for People with Disabilities.  On the 
                    final issue presented in the draft, the subcommittee discussed 
                    allowing individual members to participate in any meeting2 
                    by telephone in the event of an emergency or other unforeseen 
                    circumstance that prevented such a member from attending a 
                    meeting. The subcommittee explored what if any limitation 
                    should place on the number of emergencies that an individual 
                    member could invoke. The draft limited such emergency participation 
                    to two meetings per calendar year. VPA and the Virginia Coalition 
                    for Open Government indicated that emergency participation 
                    should limited to one meeting per year and suggested that 
                    the words "personal emergency or other unforeseen circumstances" 
                    in the draft was too open ended. After significant discussion 
                    on (i) the scope of any emergency participation, (ii) the 
                    process by which the affected member would notify his board 
                    or commission of the emergency, (iii) the approval of the 
                    body to allow such participation, and (iv) the limitation 
                    on the number of emergencies that would be allowed, the subcommittee 
                    voted to strike the words "personal" before the 
                    word "emergency" and "or other unforeseen circumstances" 
                    from the draft and to limit emergency participation by an 
                    individual member in each calendar year to two meetings or 
                    25 percent of the meeting of the public body, whichever is 
                    less. There was brief discussion on whether the number of 
                    members of a public body that could avail themselves of this 
                    emergency provision should likewise be limited. The subcommittee 
                    found no compelling reason to impose this additional limitation. 
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                    additional issues were brought to the subcommittee's attention. 
                    Subcommittee member Wurtzel discussed his proposed draft that 
                    would allow state public bodies, including the State Council 
                    on Higher Education (SCHEV), to conduct electronic meetings 
                    without a quorum assembled in one physical location under 
                    specific conditions and for limited purposes. Chairman Edwards 
                    noted that there was consensus among the subcommittee expressed 
                    at this meeting and at its previous meeting that the requirement 
                    for a physical quorum to be located at the main meeting location 
                    should be preserved in the law. The draft offered by Mr. Wurtzel 
                    was not taken up by the subcommittee.   A representative 
                    of the Virginia Community College System (VCCS) provided a 
                    letter from Glenn DuBois, Chancellor, VCCS, which advised 
                    the subcommittee that it sought to regain the ability of VCCS 
                    to hold special electronic meetings solely for the purpose 
                    of community college presidential certifications. The letter 
                    indicated that this ability was lost in 2005 with the expiration 
                    of the electronic meeting pilot program authorized under Chapter 
                    704 of the 1999 Acts of Assembly. The letter urged the subcommittee 
                    to consider relaxing the electronic meetings law for VCCS. 
                    Certain members of the subcommittee advised that they were 
                    sympathetic to the problem, but did not see the possibility 
                    of a compromise on the issue.  The 
                    subcommittee directed staff to prepare a revised draft reflecting 
                    the consensus of the subcommittee on the issues discussed. 
                    The revised draft will be made available on the FOIA Council 
                    Website.  The 
                    next meeting of the Electronic Meetings Subcommittee is scheduled 
                    for Wednesday, October 11, 2006 at 10:00 a.m. in the Speakers 
                    Conference Room of the General Assembly Building, Richmond.
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                    Subcommittee members Edwards, Miller, Spencer, Fifer, Wiley, 
                    and Wurtzel were present. Senator Houck and Mr. Bryan were 
                    absent.2 
                    Traditional meetings where members are physically assembled 
                    in one location and meetings conducted by electronic communication 
                    means.
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